Coalmont Community Association
Posted on January 18, 2012
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The second meeting of what was first called the “Coalmont Ratepayers Association” was held at the Coalmont Hotel tonight. One of the first things on the agenda was choosing a name and, since inclusivity was on the top of everybody’s list, it was decided that the organization should be called the Coalmont Community Association.
From this meeting it was obvious that there is a desire for people to be in touch regarding things that effect us which are happening in the regional district and beyond. There was no talk of local contentious issues. In fact the discussion was quite lively and upbeat.
When the meeting started, there was a cheer for Bob Sterne who has, amazingly, just come back from a sudden death experience. (See previous article.) That set a nice caring tone for the evening.
Most of the agenda was necessarily administrative because of the newness of the association. There is now a basic mission statement and constitution. Becoming a registered society will be the next step.
Present at the meeting were about 25 people, including Ole Juul (chair), Ernie Rice (vice chair), and Penny Goodfellow (secretary/treasurer). Our local Area ‘H’ representative, Brad Hope, was also there to answer questions and, as it turns out, get some input from those present which he can take back to the RDOS board. This specifically regarding the Princeton Landfill which we pay (probably more than) our share of. A number of people reported being charged extra fees. This was surprising news to Hope and it is now looking like the cost of the landfill is not being distributed fairly - neither between Area ‘H’ and Princeton, nor between individual users. This obviously warrants looking into.
There was also a lively discussion about Trans Canada Trail usage and recent events. Bill Allinott, Faye and Ken Davidson, the Sternes, and Brad Hope, had much to report on this subject. It appears that there are a lot of complications, as well as diverse points of view. Almost everyone has a stake in this so we can expect to see the subject on future agendas.
The meeting ended with refreshments and friendly discussion. Michelle, who runs the Coalmont Hotel, was very kind to provide the use of the facility and the evening was indeed a great success.
For detailed information, such as minutes and mission statement, there is a web site. It is hoped that www.coalmont.net/cca will become a handy place to keep in touch with CCA events and notices. However, for those without internet who would like paper notices, the Sternes have donated a metal mail box which is located by the town bulletin board.
The next meeting will be on April 17 and anybody would owns property, lives here, or would otherwise call themselves a Coalmontian, is welcome to attend. §
Miracle on Main Street
Posted on January 17, 2012
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On December 30, 2011 my husband Bob’s, heart stopped while he was shovelling snow in Coalmont. As I was phoning 9-1-1, our neighbour Maurice rushed to the scene with his two adult sons, Mike and Shane. They immediately began CPR. I heard them say there was no pulse or breathing and grabbed our home defibrillator. We had purchased the defibrillator when we first moved to Coalmont because I was always worried about how long it would take an ambulance to reach us if one was needed in a heart emergency (even though neither of us had a previous history of heart problems). I pulled out the pads and froze as one of Maurice’s sons took them from me and placed them on Bob. The defibrillator immediately took over and began evaluating the situation and “talking” to us. A shock was needed, so I pushed the button on the machine as instructed. Mike performed mouth-to-mouth and Shane administered compressions as indicated by the defibrillator. A second shock was needed and upon administering this shock, Bob breathed and a pulse was detected by Shane. Jodi (of the Tulameen Volunteer Fire Department) came to administer oxygen just before the ambulance arrived.
The roads were treacherous that day and it took the ambulance 45 minutes to arrive. Without the intervention of Maurice, Shane and Mike, and the use of the home defibrillator, Bob would be dead. Saying “thank you” seems a pretty insignificant way to truly thank the heroes who saved his life. While Bob was being loaded into the ambulance, other neighbours stepped in to help. Ray took the keys to our motel and said he’d get our guests checked in for me and look after things until I got back. Michelle of the Coalmont Hotel took our puppy and cared for her while I was in Penticton with Bob. Jan gave me comfort, wrote down phone numbers I would need, and helped me gather what I needed for my trip to Penticton. Shane (a man who I had never met before and who had just saved Bob’s life) drove me all the way to Penticton hospital so I could be with Bob. Maurice phoned my children to tell them what was happening. It seemed the locals of Coalmont became one united front to help us in our darkest time. You hear so many stories about incidents in big cities where people in need are just passed by. Not in Coalmont. When help is needed, the locals jump right in. Shane, Mike and Maurice are truly heroes who brought my husband back to life and have given us a second chance. The rest of the neighbours who helped are my Coalmont angels. Bob and I want to thank you all for being there for us.
Normally in a situation such as this, the patient suffers sudden death. The quick actions of Maurice, Shane and Mike meant that Bob not only lived, but he didn’t suffer any brain damage. The doctors are amazed because this just doesn’t happen. Our defibrillator has made the rounds of numerous hospitals because the medical personnel wanted to see the miracle machine. Home defibrillators can be purchased online from Philips. They are expensive, but with an outcome like this I would spend that money over and over again if it was needed. I would highly recommend this life-saving machine to everyone who lives any distance from emergency response. Minutes count in a heart emergency! A ten minute delay is usually fatal. Bob came home after the doctors implanted a pacemaker/defibrillator in his chest. After numerous tests, they said he actually has a perfectly healthy heart, but for some reason on December 30, the wiring in his heart short-circuited. The implant will prevent this from happening again and Bob can continue living a normal life. To our heroes - Mike, Shane and Maurice; to our numerous neighbours for their help and prayers; to the ambulance attendants, hospital doctors and nurses who got Bob stabilized; and to God for orchestrating this entire rescue I send you my deepest and most sincere thanks. We will NEVER forget you and we will never be able to thank you enough.
Regards,
Diane and Bob Sterne
A Community Association
Posted on November 24, 2011
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Coalmont has had several attempts at a community organization in the past, but there is none now. Lately there has been talk of setting up a ratepayers association so that we can speak with one voice when needed or wanted. A meeting was called and, although an official name has yet to be chosen, the results were very encouraging.
Following is a report on the proceedings at the inaugural meeting 7pm November 22, 2011 Coalmont Hotel. Chris Goodfellow chaired the meeting and our Area ‘H’ director, Brad Hope was on hand. There were 26 people present.
Brad Hope explained the concept of a community association, how to form one and what it can, and cannot do. He also talked about the kind of funding that we could get and gave examples of what was going on in other communities.
The Aquatic Centre Referendum was discussed as an example of a situation where a community association could have helped us by giving members a heads-up and disseminating relevant information. Ole Juul pointed out that the new community bulletin board which was provided by the Mozey-On-Inn has already been very successful in helping us communicate.
The idea of a quorum was discussed. What does it mean and what number should it be.
Communication with members, particularly those who weren’t present or were out of town, was discussed. Inclusivity was a big concern. It was decided to start making a list of community members so that they could be contacted with information, both now and in the future. Some people preferred e-mail and some telephone. It was noted that some have neither and that, in any case, we should also consider using mailouts.
Fern Aguillon mentioned that there had been a community association in the 1960s, but that it had just dwindled.
The meeting then came to a point where Chris asked if we should have a vote now; how many positions, and so on. The number of executive positions was a matter of concern to many, some believing that it was important to have a larger number in order to make it more democratic. Others felt that a larger number would not be sustainable for such a small community, and in any case the executive should not be making decisions on the part of the membership. Once it was understood that we could operate without giving power to an executive and that all decisions would be made at publicised meetings with a sizable quorum, everyone was in favour of forming an association. Considering the small community, it was agreed that a quorum of 15 was large enough to be democratic and small enough to be achieved.
Bob Sterne then proposed three motions which were passed with a large majority. They were:
1- There should be 4 meetings a year where the executive bring issues to the group.
2- A meeting needs a quorum of 15 members present in order to make any decision.
3- The executive positions will be, Chair, Vice Chair, SecretaryTreasurer
These were all seconded and passed. The first two were unanimous, and the third had two dissenting.
Nominations were made, and the result of a vote was the following:
Secretary Treasurer - Penny Goodfellow
Vice Chair - Ernie Rice
Chair - Ole Juul
The public meetings will be held on the 3rd Tuesday of the month. The next one will be 7pm January 17. It is hoped that we can use the Coalmont Hotel again, but this cannot be confirmed at this time because the new operators are not here yet and have not been contacted.
As to who should be included in the membership, it was agreed that everybody who lives, or owns land, right in Coalmont as well as the surrounding area should have a say. Although almost all residents are land owners in Coalmont, that is not a requirement for membership. When discussing this, Ron Jones summed it up when he said “everybody”.
Chris then collected e-mail addresses and phone numbers for all those present and it was agreed that we should work on getting contact information for as many people as possible and make an effort to inform them of the next meeting. It was also decided that the Area Director has a permanent invitation to the meetings
By the end of the meeting the mood was very positive and there was a general feeling that something good had just happened.
It should be noted that there is much to be decided by the group and all of the above needs to be firmed up at future meetings. The idea was to get something going. Chris Goodfellow was particularly instrumental in pulling this together. §
Brad Hope Starts Second Term
Posted on November 21, 2011
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The official results for the November 19 Municipal Elections are now in, and Brad Hope is elected for a second term as our Area ‘H’ director. The numbers were 315 for Hope and 245 for Weber.
On matters involving our area, the Director has one vote out of the 18 on the RDOS board. At present, the Regional District of Okanagan-Similkameen Board is comprised of eighteen directors. Ten municipal directors representing the City of Penticton, the District of Summerland, the Town of Osoyoos, the Town of Oliver, the Town of Princeton and the Village of Keremeos. Eight rural area directors representing Kaleden/Okanagan Falls, Naramata, Okanagan Lake West/West Bench, Keremeos Rural/Hedley, Cawston, Rural Princeton, Rural Oliver and Rural Osoyoos. Along with Tulameen, Eastgate, Missezula Lake, and the other communities in Area ‘H’, Coalmont is counted as “Rural Princeton”.
If you have concerns about our area, you can contact Brad Hope at 250-295-3512 or email bhope@rdos.bc.ca He also has a web site where you can find out more about him and what he has been doing during his last term. Because of our relationship with the Town of Princeton, you may also wish to talk with the newly elected mayor there who will take your messages on his web site. §
Talk of Septage
Posted on November 15, 2011
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There has been a lot of talk around here recently about the dumping of septage in the area.
At the core of the discussion is a facility on private land which is situated up the hill from the old Granite Creek townsite. The accusations are that the Princeton Septic Service and Keremeos Septic Services trucks are driving up there and illegally dumping sewage. On the surface, if true, these accusations are fairly serious and can have some ramifications. So, what is really going on here?
First of all, these pumper trucks are used primarily for pumping out septic tanks when maintenance is required. The material itself is properly referred to as “septage”. In an area like ours this is a required service and is stipulated by health regulations.
There are several permitted places in Area ‘H’ where septage can be disposed of. There are also strict regulations set out for this by the Ministry of Environment, and all facilities must be approved and have a permit. Closest to us is the one at Granite.
The property is owned by Bert Rice, his recently deceased father, Dan Rice, having originally purchased the land in 1944. In 1984 a Coalmont septic service company operated by Paul Dore was getting started, and Dan was approached as a provider of a suitable disposal site. A location was decided upon and plans were submitted to the ministry which subsequently were approved. Upon inspection a permit was issued. This permit only allows for one company to use it at any time and this stipulation is ensured by having a locked entrance to prevent unauthorized truck access.
At this point in time, Princeton Septic is the company who has the contract for use of this location. They are the only ones with a key and the legal right to dispose of septage there. The rumour that Keremeos Septic is going up there cannot be confirmed, but it would have to be done without the knowledge and consent of the owner who says he has not seen any evidence of illegal access, but would be most concerned if he did. It should be noted that Keremeos Septic can and does ply their trade in this area and it would not be unusual to see them going about their business here.
The site apparently complies with all Federal and Provincial laws. Last Thursday the Ministry of Environment Toxic Management and Emergency Response Officer for the Kootenay and Okanagan Region came and did an inspection - presumably because someone had called him. The inspector’s verdict was that it was a clean site and that he had no concerns.
So, it would appear that those who might want a change will have to lobby for new Provincial laws. Until those change, it looks like we will just have to accept that this site complies with all applicable laws, is deemed environmentally safe, and that it is on private land. §
Questions to the Candidates
Posted on November 14, 2011
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On November 19 we will be voting on the position of director for Area ‘H’. Although this position carries less weight in the district than the municipal mayor, it is nevertheless our only voice. Please take the time to understand what this means for our future here and how your choice will impact our independence, taxes, and quality of life, in the future.
By now we have all seen some of the general material put out by the two candidates, Charles Weber and incumbent Brad Hope, but it was felt that some more direct answers were needed. Therefore we posed some questions so that everyone could see where they both stand on some of the concerns that relate to Coalmont and Area ‘H’ in general. Here is the e-mail which was sent and the answers we received.
Hello Charles and Brad,
I have put together seven questions which concern some Area ‘H’ issues. If you would be so kind as to address these then I can put them in the Coalmont Courier so that others can see where you both stand on, or even just what you think about, these issues. I will not edit your answers, so please try to not make them too long. I can publish a separate article if you wish to hold forth at length.
1/ How will you help individual communities retain their independence?
BH: Upon being elected I quickly learned how important our small communities are to those who live in them. Residents and non-residents alike take pride in their communities. Since being elected I have worked with every single community in our area on trails, fire brigades, infrastructure and building local participation. I was of course a strong advocate for a mail-in ballot and most particularly for separating the vote between the town and Area H. In was my motion at RDOS that brought about the vote separation. Both Charles Weber and Mayor McLean spoke aggressively in favour of keeping the vote combined with the town.
CW:
2/ Do you see a need for more effort being put into helping part-time residents (currently at 46%) to be included in the RDOS decision making process? (eg. making it easier for them to vote.)
BH: I certainly see a need for more part-time resident participation and have encouraged that process with things like a mail-in ballot. Most of the projects we have in progress throughout the area involve both full and part time residents. More than half of Area H taxation comes from part-time residents although they use fewer services. Part or full time, we are all friends and neighbours and we take pride in our communities and we all deserve a voice.
CW:
3/ Regarding centralized services in the Town of Princeton:
Should residents pay more, or less, toward Princeton infrastructure? What do you think about residents paying for the Princeton Library when in fact they previously voted against that?
BH: I am not opposed to contributing to the centralized services in Princeton. It benefits both communities. We both use the hospital services and we both should pay. We both save significant tax by sharing the landfill. Children from both communities use our recreational facilities and so on, but it has to be fair. To suggest for example that Area H should pay over 60% of an Aquatic Center in Princeton is neither fair nor equitable. In the case of the library we voted not to have it in on our taxes and we should therefore expect to pay a reasonable fee to use it.
CW:
4/ Five years ago the average age was 56 and rising. In view of the current amenity migration forcing up taxes, how will you help pensioners and people on fixed incomes to stay in the area?
BH: We look after those on fixed income. It defines who we are as a society. We need to make sure medical services are up to date, readily available and affordable. We need to keep taxes at a minimum for those that are on fixed income and we need to develop local programs so that it is not always necessary to travel to larger centers. When travel is necessary to Princeton, Penticton or Kelowna we need a transit option. Over the last two years both the Mayor of Princeton and myself have been pressuring BC Transit to expand services. Some of our recommendations are now being looked at by BC Transit and I am in discussions with the government on a pilot program to see if we can provide a bus service to Penticton and Kelowna and back once every 10 days to allow people to schedule medical appointments and return home on the same day.
CW:
5/ Leading up to the Aquatic Centre Referendum, there was a large number of people who felt that the democratic process was being subverted. This resulted in the voting structure being changed. How do you propose to help us avoid this kind of situation in the future?
BH: I was not opposed to an Aquatic Center in Princeton and never tried to stop the referendum, although I did request that it be postponed until such time as a much more fair, equitable and reasonable proposal could be put on the table. I did however fight tooth and nail to give Area H a separate vote and a mail-in ballot. In my mind the referendum as initially put forward was totally undemocratic. Thankfully residents came together and provided me with a petition with 833 signatures. With that in hand I was able to successfully separate the vote in spite of efforts by Charles Weber and the town. I believe that referendums that involve Area H should be held in the summer when most full and part time residents are present and Area H should always have a separate voice.
CW:
6/ Considering that the average travel time to and from Princeton is about an hour, how important do you think it would be to develop, or perhaps subsidize, some services in our various communities?
BH: I believe different communities have different views of how they would like to develop and what they would like in terms of local services. There are some basic needs that need to be available such as home care and some medical assistance for the elderly but on most issues I find the communities themselves need to determine what it is they want. It is my job simply to assist them in getting it.
CW:
7/ Area ‘H’ is unique in the RDOS in terms of the diverse and widespread communities. Are you in favour of removing the term “Princeton Rural” from the RDOS canon? (Except perhaps when referring to Princeton Fringe.)
BH: As a matter of fact I do think that “Princeton Rural” is a concept that has out grown itself. Allison Lake has an expanding park and trail system, a fire brigade and many other distinctive features. The same is true for all our communities. Coalmont, Tulameen, Eastgate, Missezula, Osprey Lake and Chain Lake have their own association, their own identities and other qualities that make them unique. We are not just suburbs of Princeton. This diversity is not only good for the individual communities, it is good for all of Area H and for Princeton as well. It makes for a much more interesting overall region.
CW:
Note: After several days and considerable encouragement we have been unable to elicit a response from Mr. Weber, and it would appear that he has nothing to say on these issues. It was decided to publish the article nevertheless. -Ed.
No Telephone Service in Coalmont
Posted on November 3, 2011
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Right in the middle of a conversation I was having on the telephone yesterday afternoon, blip, the line went dead - it still is.
This is not unusual and we’re used to it. Talking with people who have been here for a long time, it becomes clear that we’ve had rotten lines for some years now. Sometimes it takes a day, but often the phones are back in a few hours. However in this case it looks like they’re going to be down all night as well.
For those who don’t live here - let me explain. We have had telephone service in this town since it’s inception in 1911. The first line came in with the railway as is usual in these little places. I don’t know how the lines were installed in the intervening years, but about 30 years ago they put in a cable. This cable follows the mountainous Coalmont Road and in some places just lies in the rocky ditch. You can see a piece of it sticking out just as you enter town. We have no cell phone service but are lucky enough to have gotten a wireless internet service which is several times faster than dialup, but unfortunately not fast enough to connect an internet phone.
Because of the constant rockfall along the road, the road crews have to dig out the ditch once or twice a year. They also have to plough the snow for some months. The obvious result is that the poor old cable gets snagged. Apparently it is also past it’s prime and at this point it frequently causes unbearable noise, often for months on end, and circuits just give out without any human intervention.
Calls to Telus are sparse because when the phones go out - you can’t use the phone. This might be obvious to many readers, however it is not an easy task to explain this to a Telus service representative whose intelligence is tied to a script. People in Coalmont have also given up complaining about it and Telus probably likes it that way.
Today, several of us with a bit of internet savvy, contacted Telus via on-line chat. Some of the “conversation” was downright ludicrous. Nevertheless, at this point I know what to say so as to avoid half an hour of “what is your number” and “we’ll send someone to your house within two weeks”. I decided that I would give it a second try late at night, to see if they had taken us seriously yet. Here is a part of that conversation:
02:28:33 : Welcome! Thank you for using TELUS Chat Support, please be advised that your chat session will be recorded to ensure a quality customer experience.
02:28:33 : Ole Juul: Initial Question/Comment: The Town of Coalmont telephone system is still dead. We cannot call to register a complaint because we have no working telephones in the town. Cell service is not available here. Can we expect any repairs tonight, or will the town be without telephones all night?
02:28:49 : John has joined this session!
02:28:49 : Connected with John. Your reference number for this chat session is xxxxxx.
02:28:56 : John: Welcome to TELUS Support Centre. My name is John and I’ll be helping you today.
02:28:58 : John: Could you please provide the telephone number and service address for this account?
02:29:13 : Ole Juul: Hi John. This is not an account, this is a small town.
Regional Trails Master Plan
Posted on November 1, 2011
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RDOS (Regional District of Okanagan-Similkameen) and its member municipalities will be developing a Regional Trails Master Plan (RTMP). Various user groups will be meeting to discuss the future of trails such as the KVR corridor. The new master plan will decide how the trails will look over the next 10 years and who will be allowed to use them. You can share your ideas by completing an online survey at: www.clickhikebike.com. Scheduled meetings will be posted at: www.rdos.bc.ca. We will try to keep you posted here as well.
If you use the trails in this area, this is the time to add your input to this plan which will affect your use of the trails. §
Election November 19
Posted on October 28, 2011
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Electors of the Regional District of Okanagan-Similkameen will elect an Electoral Area Director for the three years term ending in the fall of 2014. You do not need to register prior to voting day. You are required to produce two (2) pieces of ID that together prove who you are and where you live. One MUST have your signature. There is more information on the RDOS Voter Information page.
GENERAL VOTING DAY
will be open to qualified electors of Electoral Area ‘H’ on Saturday, November 19, 2011 between the hours of 8:00 am and 8:00 pm at the following locations:
Royal Canadian Legion Branch 56, 170 Bridge Street, Princeton, BC
Tulameen Fire Department , 132 – 1st Street, Tulameen, BC
Advance Voting
any qualified elector may vote at an advance opportunity, November 9, 2011, between the hours of 8:00 am and 8:00 pm, at the following location:
Library Meeting Room – 107 Vermilion Avenue, Princeton, BC
This year there is also a mail-in vote. If you are one of the many who are not here this time of year, please take advantage of this and also remind others who might be in the same situation.
To receive a mail-in ballot package you must first submit, a mail-in ballot application to the Regional District office between November 1, 2011 and November 17, 2011. To obtain the application please go to the RDOS website.
There are two persons nominated as candidates for Area ‘H’ director. Brad Hope, who is the current director, and Charles Weber who we know from the Princeton Aquatic Centre Committee.
Some people may also have property in the Town of Princeton and be eligible to vote for the Mayor there. This position has a strong effect on Area ‘H’ policy, so please don’t miss out on voicing your opinion there. The two relevant candidates are Fred Thomas, and Randy McLean, who is the current Mayor. §
Small Town BC - Coalmont
Posted on October 20, 2011
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Many saw the Global TV segment of Small Town BC which featured Coalmont. It was both fun and empowering to see our community on TV. That doesn’t happen very often.
You can watch the segment on-line here.
People were asked to send in pictures and forward the e-mail asking for such. The method seems to work because there were lots of pictures. There were also a few submissions from people who don’t live in town. §
Photo Bob Sterne
WE WON!
Posted on September 25, 2011
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The Princeton Aquatic Centre Referendum is over. The first numbers to come from the Chief Election Officer are listed below. We are still waiting for the official announcement and until then these numbers are not set in stone. Although it is not expected that there will be any change, we will however update promptly if necessary.
Princeton
474 YES
507 NO
FAILEDArea ‘H’
269 YES
968 NO
FAILED
There are several things which can be inferred from these numbers. One is the relative lack of interest, one way or the other, shown in the Town of Princeton. Not a lot of voters showed up there. Another is the unusually large number of voters who showed up in Area ‘H’ and the large majority of NO votes there. This is not just a no - it is a NO!
Although this aquatic centre project and referendum has been described by a few people as being a two sided issue, the reality is that there has not been any controversy in our town. The bottom line is that the referendum has failed to show significant interest in funding this large project. Certainly from a Coalmont point of view - we won. §
UPDATE: The OFFICIAL results have now been confirmed and they are the same as we have above. You can see the details on the Official Referendum Results RDOS page.
Coalmont Community Bulletin Board
Posted on September 22, 2011
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The new Coalmont Community Bulletin Board is already much used, which shows that it was something we really needed here. It was provided courtesy of the Mozey-On-Inn.
Although (as one person reports seeing) it would appear to be a problem with people from out of town, it is clear that not everybody shares the Coalmont spirit of community. Of course the board is for everyone, but regardless of where you’re from, good manners apply here. This prompted the following letter to the Coalmont Courier.
keep looking »Bulletin Board Etiquette
Most have probably noticed the new Coalmont Community Bulletin Board that we placed near the mailboxes. We felt it would be a nice addition since it was becoming more and more difficult to read the notices which were being put up. Unfortunately, with the Pool Referendum around the corner, some have decided that their point of view is more important than others and have been removing notices and replacing them with those showing a different point of view.
We would remind everyone that we are a community, and as such are made up of individuals who will have different points of view. Your point of view is not more important than those of others, and you have no right to remove their notices from the board. The only time it would be appropriate to remove notices from the board is when they are obviously expired.
We hope everyone will practice bulletin board etiquette. Please show respect for your friends and neighbours and set an example for the children in our community. This is a perfect opportunity to teach our children how democracy works and that everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Your Neighbours,
Diane and Bob Sterne
The Mozey-On-Inn
